Post by Raven on Jun 18, 2006 18:46:25 GMT -5
Do to a Tweek-Level ruling issue, I have to post this crap now.
Basically, Kingardvark was playing this Brendan guy. Brendan had Chaos Sorcerer and a f/d Enemy Controller, while KA had nothing. KA starts his turn, drawing Zaborg, the Thunder Monarch. He revives his Treeborn Frog From the graveyard and sacrifices it for Zaborg, targeting CS for the effect. Brendan chains Enemy Controller, Sacrificing CS and targeting Zaborg. He takes Zaborg, and then tries to argue that Zaborg must now kill itself since it is the only monster on the field, which is not the case in this situation. After a five minute speech on how EC is a Spd 2 and Zaborg's a Spd 1, he leaves stating "I'll never come back to this f**king store again!"
These are the official rulings on EC and ZtTM.
ENEMY CONTROLLER
You can activate "Enemy Controller"'s first effect even if you have no monster on your side of the field.
If you activate either of "Enemy Controller"'s effects, and your opponent chains "Book of Moon" to flip the target monster face-down, its targeting conditions are no longer correct when "Enemy Controller" resolves and "Enemy Controller"'s effect disappears.
The monster you Tribute for "Enemy Controller" is a cost.
When the Ignition Effect of "Cannon Soldier" or "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" is activated, and you chain "Enemy Controller" to take control of the "Cannon Soldier"/"Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End", even if you take control of the monster, you cannot take control of the effect itself. So if your opponent activates "Cannon Soldier" or "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End"'s effect, and you chain "Enemy Controller", you still take the damage from "Cannon Soldier"/"Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End".
If "Dark Magician of Chaos" is Summoned, and you chain "Enemy Controller" to the activation of his effect, even if you take control of "Dark Magician of Chaos", you cannot take control of his effect, so the Summoner (the activator of the effect) gets to retrieve 1 Spell Card from the Graveyard.
When "Spirit of the Pharaoh" is Special Summoned, and "Enemy Controller" is chained to the effect, the player who Special Summoned "Spirit of the Pharaoh" gets the effect because he activated the effect.
If you take control of your opponent's monster with "Enemy Controller", and then the monster is flipped face-down with "Book of Moon", control of the monster is still returned to the opponent (the original controller) during the End Phase.
If you take control of your opponent's monster with "Enemy Controller", and then the monster is removed from play with "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" or "Dimensionhole", when it returns to play it comes to the side of the field of the player who used "Enemy Controller", but then immediately moves back to the original Controller.
If your opponent Normal Summons "Breaker the Magical Warrior", "Breaker the Magical Warrior"'s effect to place a Spell Counter on him activates, and you chain "Enemy Controller" to that effect and take control of "Breaker the Magical Warrior". In that case, resolve "Enemy Controller" first and "Breaker the Magical Warrior"'s effect of placing a Spell Counter second.
ZABORG THE THUNDER MONARCH
You have to destroy 1 monster. If there are no other monsters then you have to destroy "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch".
"Zaborg the Thunder Monarch"'s effect targets.
If you target "Chaos Command Magician" with "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch"'s effect, the effect is negated.
If you Tribute Set "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch" face-down the effect is not activated.
This ends th problem right away. ZtTM is Summoned, and [glow=red,2,300]IMMEDIATELY[/glow] chooses its target. EC is chained afterwards, and since CS is no longer on the field, ZtTM's effect fizzles away because the target declared at effect activation is no longer there.
Basically, Kingardvark was playing this Brendan guy. Brendan had Chaos Sorcerer and a f/d Enemy Controller, while KA had nothing. KA starts his turn, drawing Zaborg, the Thunder Monarch. He revives his Treeborn Frog From the graveyard and sacrifices it for Zaborg, targeting CS for the effect. Brendan chains Enemy Controller, Sacrificing CS and targeting Zaborg. He takes Zaborg, and then tries to argue that Zaborg must now kill itself since it is the only monster on the field, which is not the case in this situation. After a five minute speech on how EC is a Spd 2 and Zaborg's a Spd 1, he leaves stating "I'll never come back to this f**king store again!"
These are the official rulings on EC and ZtTM.
ENEMY CONTROLLER
You can activate "Enemy Controller"'s first effect even if you have no monster on your side of the field.
If you activate either of "Enemy Controller"'s effects, and your opponent chains "Book of Moon" to flip the target monster face-down, its targeting conditions are no longer correct when "Enemy Controller" resolves and "Enemy Controller"'s effect disappears.
The monster you Tribute for "Enemy Controller" is a cost.
When the Ignition Effect of "Cannon Soldier" or "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End" is activated, and you chain "Enemy Controller" to take control of the "Cannon Soldier"/"Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End", even if you take control of the monster, you cannot take control of the effect itself. So if your opponent activates "Cannon Soldier" or "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End"'s effect, and you chain "Enemy Controller", you still take the damage from "Cannon Soldier"/"Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End".
If "Dark Magician of Chaos" is Summoned, and you chain "Enemy Controller" to the activation of his effect, even if you take control of "Dark Magician of Chaos", you cannot take control of his effect, so the Summoner (the activator of the effect) gets to retrieve 1 Spell Card from the Graveyard.
When "Spirit of the Pharaoh" is Special Summoned, and "Enemy Controller" is chained to the effect, the player who Special Summoned "Spirit of the Pharaoh" gets the effect because he activated the effect.
If you take control of your opponent's monster with "Enemy Controller", and then the monster is flipped face-down with "Book of Moon", control of the monster is still returned to the opponent (the original controller) during the End Phase.
If you take control of your opponent's monster with "Enemy Controller", and then the monster is removed from play with "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" or "Dimensionhole", when it returns to play it comes to the side of the field of the player who used "Enemy Controller", but then immediately moves back to the original Controller.
If your opponent Normal Summons "Breaker the Magical Warrior", "Breaker the Magical Warrior"'s effect to place a Spell Counter on him activates, and you chain "Enemy Controller" to that effect and take control of "Breaker the Magical Warrior". In that case, resolve "Enemy Controller" first and "Breaker the Magical Warrior"'s effect of placing a Spell Counter second.
ZABORG THE THUNDER MONARCH
You have to destroy 1 monster. If there are no other monsters then you have to destroy "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch".
"Zaborg the Thunder Monarch"'s effect targets.
If you target "Chaos Command Magician" with "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch"'s effect, the effect is negated.
If you Tribute Set "Zaborg the Thunder Monarch" face-down the effect is not activated.
"Zaborg the Thunder Monarch"'s effect targets.
This ends th problem right away. ZtTM is Summoned, and [glow=red,2,300]IMMEDIATELY[/glow] chooses its target. EC is chained afterwards, and since CS is no longer on the field, ZtTM's effect fizzles away because the target declared at effect activation is no longer there.
